Halloween is NOT a pagan holiday—boycotts unnecessary!

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Boycotting Halloween is like all popular now. When I was a kid, we were the only family in our entire neighborhood whose house went dark on Halloween. Because, you know, Halloween is a pagan, evil holiday and Christians shouldn't celebrate it 'cuz that's like Jews celebrating Hitler's birthday.

We didn't even pass out Gospel tracks like those Christians who see evangelistic outreach potential in every single holiday. And we certainly weren't going to throw a faux Halloween church party called a "Fall Festival." Because that was COMPROMISING WITH THE WORLD, yo.

So, we did the most Christian thing and cowered in our darkened home, praying we wouldn't get tricked. Or, you know, persecuted for righteousness' sake.

But now? Now it seems like all kinds of Christians–and not just fundamentalists–boycott Halloween. 

The common reasoning seems to be that Halloween, an originally "pagan holiday," was "Christianized" by Catholics–yet another example, fundamentalists like to say, of Catholics corrupting true, pure Christian faith.

As an adult, I realize our boycott of Halloween had more to do with anti-Catholic sentiment than actual historical fact. Back then, I didn't even think Catholics were Christians.

Now that I know the Catholic Church isn't, in fact, leading millions of souls to Hell, imagine my surprise in discovering that "the origins of Halloween are, in fact, very Christian and rather American."

When I was a fundamentalist, I never even stopped to ask what the word Halloween meant. 

Hallow=holy
e'en= contraction for the word 'evening'

Thus, Halloween means the holy evening before All Saints Day. 

All of which to say, I would probably still be a fundamentalist if it weren't for the Internets.

Furthermore, so what if Christians "Christianize" things? That doesn't alloy our faith. Christianizing is what Christians do. I mean, if we're gonna get really technical–didn't Christians "Christianize" the Jewish faith?

And anyway, who decided that the goal of life is to avoid all things pagan? If that's the case, I guess we better come up with a different name for Thursday since it was named after the god Thor.

Of course, Halloween has become a largely secular holiday with widespread overtones of the occult. But that doesn't mean Halloween needs to be boycotted altogether. It just means that a lot of mainstream Christians have allowed pre-Christian superstition about the dead to takeover what should be a redemptive holiday.

It's possible to celebrate Halloween without glorifying the secular aspects of this particular holiday. The true celebration of Halloween should be about acknowledging our mortality–followed by remembering those who have gone before us on All Saints Day.

It's possible to celebrate and enjoy Halloween if you can, like I had to, overcome the reflexively anti-Catholic perspective that was ingrained into my Protestant DNA. 

I really hope more Christians don't boycott Halloween this year because me and my five kiddos are going trick-or-treating and guess what? We don't want a Gospel pamphlet.

WE WANT CANDY!

Although if you pass out Mint Milanos instead? I'll totally say GOD BLESS YOU! :-D

*******DISCLAIMERS!*********

  1. One buggy thing about Halloween is all the stupid, sexy costumes. On TODDLERS. 
  2. It's even worse for tweens. My 11 year old wears tween sizes now and seriously, these are the options:
  3. Sexy witch.
  4. Sexy ladybug.
  5. Sexy pumpkin.
  6. At one point she was all: WHATEVER HAPPENED TO APPROPRIATE?
  7. Her words.
  8. See? It's not just moms who don't want sexy kid costumes. Even my KID doesn't want sexy.
  9. We finally found something.
  10. But next year? I'm so totally sewing the costumes.
  11. Um. I have 5 kids. I better start sewing NOW. Ack!

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  • http://www.thegypsymama.com Lisa-Jo @thegypsymama

    Um girl, it might not be pagan but I sure as heck don’t think it’s holy. Hello dripping blood masks, vampires, ghouls and the grim reaper standing in our neighbor’s back yard. Explaining that to my four-year-old was one of the trickier conversations I’ve had. And after four years living right next door to Salem, MA and the covens that would gather there for Halloween, I have no qualms about saying Halloween is the bad, yo.

    Candy, however, could never be evil. NE-VAH!

    Peace out,
    Lisa-Jo

  • SLorenceJohns

    Agreed! And Christians should be the friendliest people on the block and give out the best candy!

  • http://profile.typepad.com/elizabethesther Elizabeth Esther

    Just because people desecrate what is holy doesn’t make the holiday itself unholy. And frankly, I LOVE explaining that stuff to my kids. At least we agree on candy! :)

  • Tara Meghan

    I know! I LOVE the Gospel, but when I take my kids out this weekend, we are looking for candy. Straight. Up. We do carved pumpkins and Toy Story costumes, and next year when they are older, I’m thinking some black and orange garland. And on November 1st, I will say “Hooray! It’s All Saint’s Day! Let’s celebrate with some of that candy.”

  • http://ocmoms.com Amy

    You know what else we Christianized? Christmas. And Easter. Ever look up the origins and meaning of the tree, the eggs, the bunny? :)

    Of course that doesn’t prevent us having a tree at our house. And we LOVE Halloween.

  • http://chroniclesofachristianheretic.blogspot.com/ Sandrakee@cox.net

    I think it’s really amusing how the Real Christians have taken to boycotting Halloween only in the last few decades–we were pretty darn conservative growing up and we never even THOUGHT about not doing Halloween!

    Had to laugh, a lot, I mean, REALLY a LOT when I got a postcard advert in the mail the other day for a local megachurch’s “Fall Alternative” (their words) that included a BMX demonstration and two shows by a MASTER ILLUSIONIST. Okay,… what? We can’t go collect candy because it’s cavorting with Satan but we can CONJURE FAKE MAGIC right in the church building?

  • http://www.thegypsymama.com Lisa-Jo @thegypsymama

    What do you tell them? For reals, I am interested.

  • http://cindyholman.wordpress.com Cindy Holman

    Well said – thanks for the great article!

  • http://profile.typepad.com/elizabethesther Elizabeth Esther

    We talk about death alot, actually. Because it’s not something to be afraid of. Death is part of life. I think as Americans we often sanitize death and/or glorify it, romanticize it, etc.

    We went to a Greek Orthodox class recently where the priest discussed how, as Christians, we face death head-on. We look at death. This is why Greek Orthodox often have open-casket funerals.

    One of the things that set early Christians apart from their culture was their unabashed courage in the face of death. Christians went singing into the coliseum where they were mawled to death by lions.

    I dunno. Some parents object to talking frankly with their kids about death. But we don’t. I think kids freak out about it if we freak out about it.

    Obviously we don’t watch shows or have bloody, gorey stuff at our house. Because I think that romanticizes and glorifies death. The point of Halloween is to prepare for All Saints Day where we celebrate and remember faithful Christians who have gone before us.

    But that’s just us. I totally love you, Lisa-Jo. Hope this helps! :)

  • http://kelly-justathought.blogspot.com/ Kelly

    My daughter is 16 now, and we haven’t ever celebrated Halloween. When I first became a Christian, my church had no problem w/H’ween, but having dabbled in the occult, I was immediately uncomfortable with it, and couldn’t reconcile the new Life in me w/the obvious celebration of death, destruction, fear and evil. It wasn’t a church thing for me. It was an “I just stepped out of this, and no way am I going back” thing. I didn’t know the origins, only what I saw on store windows and heard about “celebrating the spirit of Halloween”. I was not fearful of it. I was free of it.

    People told me that I would change my mind when I had a child. When my daughter came, I not only still didn’t want to participate, but I couldn’t see letting my child enter into it, either. Not for a bag of candy. Not for the sake of fun. She had no shortage of parties and candy and we had a wonderful Tickle trunk of costumes. Aside from a year or two when she felt the pressure of wanting to be like the other kids, she has never wanted to “celebrate” the spirit of Halloween. In fact, many matter-of-fact conversations about her faith took place with her friends because she didn’t celebrate Halloween.

    I was never anal about it, because I was never afraid of it. But I could never think of a good reason to “celebrate” the spirit of Halloween. I have since done research, and understand a bit about the origins of H’ween, but regardless of what it was, there is now “what it is”.

    Fear, anxiety, death and destruction ruled my life for too many years. I can’t celebrate them, or enjoy them. Especially when I think of what Jesus had to go through to set me free of them. My daughter has not been involved in the occult like I was, having been a christian from a young age, but she accepts my experiences and feels like being a child of Light means giving up some things that look temptingly good in order to receive God’s best for her. And really, with everything she has to deal with as a Christian teen in a secular high school, not celebrating Halloween has been the least of her worries!

    And if I am wrong? We lose a few bags of candy and a bit of fun. I feel comfortable taking that chance.

    These are just my thoughts and experiences, not a fundie thing and not even a church thing. I have no problem with other people’s choices. Just thought you might be interested in another perspective.

    Love your blog, btw. :)

  • http://condo-blues.blogspot.com Condo Blues

    It’s funny because a lot of my green friends hate Halloween for some of the same reasons that ultra religious people I know – two groups that say that are not like the other :)

    As a kid, all I knew about Halloween is dressing up and trick or treating. I really think that it’s a holiday that you can celebrate in any way you choose. I second the sexy costume thing. I’m going to a party w/ my husband’s co-workers. Not to mention it’s too COLD OUTSIDE to wear them!

    As a person who’s studied more history than a normal person should be allowed, the reason that Christians adopted symbols and concreted Pagan spaces was in an effort to convert them (by law) to Christianity.

  • http://www.andtheycallherblessed.blogspot.com Jessica Bish

    This was an interesting description as well http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween and it leans more towards the celtic origins of Halloween and the reasons for costumes, etc. Not something that I think our children should be exposed to. Even if you make it fun with the best of intentions – people still perceive that you are celebrating the ‘dark’ side of Halloween. It’s just the nature of the beast for a lack of better words.

  • http://liferearranged.com/blog jeannett

    This was great! My favorite are people who say “We don’t DO Halloween!” Yet, they carve pumpkins, dress up, and go to church functions. Um, last time I checked, if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck…call it what you want, but it’s still a DUCK!

  • http://profile.typepad.com/elizabethesther Elizabeth Esther

    I think this makes perfect sense given your background. I think it proves how the holiday has developed such a significant secular & occult following that the Christian origins have been lost. And I respect your decision—totally! Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I’m happy you felt safe to do so! :)

  • http://www.mcmanuspartyoffive.blogspot.com Talysa@comcast.net

    Hmm…walk in any worship service in a contemporary church in America on any given Sunday and you will see “Christianized”…yet it is what we do, how we do it, and it works to a degree.

    I personally never want to glorify or entertain the demonic realm but know for a fact that Halloween does NOT have to be that! We tried one year hunkering down in our bonus room with a movie and turning off our porch light.

    Felt so wrong…so convicted…so safe. And as Christians we are not called to a “safe” life. We vowed never to do that again. We CAN be in this world and not be of it. After all, we are to follow Jesus’ example and no one exemplified this better than He did.

    I too enjoy talking and conversing with my kids about those “evil” costumes…I view it as an opportunity to “train them up”…to teach them from a safe distance about those things that are real and existent in their world and to also affirm in them what we stand for..what we believe and why. Gives them power over those things…no guessing…no wondering…confidence in who they are and how they will live life with a healthy awareness of the fact that not all of the world will make that choice. Plus we feel that if Jesus felt it important enough to address Satan, tell others about him, and tell us how to guard our hearts against him, I think it just might be important to make my children aware of the very realness that he is. That he is not a cute little red guy with horns and a tail. He is very real and very determined to destroy our lives. Kids should have a healthy understanding of delving into this realm. I just saw a Ouija board for sale in the midst of the candy aisle yesterday at my local grocery store. With knowledge and understanding comes power.

    I do not want to run and hide and leave my children clueless as to what they are up against.

    And there is always the fact that as Christians we are called out to love love love! Not hide in our bonus rooms…or hand out tracks. :-)

    On a lighter note…if I came to your house I’d rather have the name of your wall color than candy. Love it. Please do dish :-)

  • http://milehimama.com Milehimama

    I am a Catholic and we don’t celebrate Halloween. Here’s why we made that choice for our family:
    http://www.milehimama.com/2010/10/19/why-we-dont-celebrate-halloween/

    And UGGH I hate so many of the costumes! When did it become ok to dress up little girls like that?

  • http://profile.typepad.com/elizabethesther Elizabeth Esther

    As with many holidays, traditions from different cultures are often thrown in—ie. costumes on Halloween, Christmas trees at Christmas. We can weed out the traditions we don’t want to participate in. I still don’t think a total boycott is necessary.

  • http://www.laanykids.blogspot.com Charity

    I grew up trick-or-treating (very blandly – in our rural neighborhood on my dad’s haywagon he pulled up and down the road with his tractor, and we never wore goulish costumes)and my husband did not. He disliked the idea of “begging” for candy; I didn’t feel strongly enough about it to campaign for letting our kids do it. Then our daughter decided to be born on October 31, so that settled that! I’m not about to let an over-commercialized day trump my daughter’s birthday, and we save money on costumes and candy to put toward cake and presents! We do, however, pass out candy to the kids in our small subdivision, and we also hang a sign right by the doorbell stating that they must wish our daughter a happy birthday before they get candy!!

  • http://www.madamerubies.com Heather

    I love your sarcastic rants. They make me all warm and fuzzy inside. :) All Saints Sunday is one of my favorite Sundays in the church calendar. The first time I was at a church that truly recognized the day was when we moved here, and it was the first All Saints after my Nattie-Pie died (www.nattierosewrites.com). Now, I always associate that day with her, and I play Sara Groves version of “When the Saints” all day. That song fills me with love and pain and passion.

    As for Halloween, I love costumes. I am going as The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo this year.

    PS My little baptist church from childhood hosted a haunted house every year and Preacher lay in a coffin and jumped out at us.

  • http://www.madamerubies.com Heather

    This is awesome. Ai yi yi… Our neighbor church has a judgment house every year. I told my girls I would save them the time. “You are going to Hell so repent right now, this very second, you cannot leave this building until you give your soul to Jesus, Amen.”

  • http://www.roccocapra.com/blog Rocco Capra

    Thanks for posting this! Loved it!

  • velinka m.

    Agreed!

  • http://whitewashedfeminist.wordpress.com Cally Tyrol

    Thank you for this! Really and truly. I became so dismayed when I saw the typical anti-Halloween propaganda being posted on a few Orthodox blogs. Most of those “arguments” can be answered pretty easily.

    Christians commit the genetic fallacy all over the place when it comes to Halloween. Here’s a couple of good articles I found helpful:

    http://www.reasons.org/theology/general-apologetics/tricky-topic-halloween-0

    http://www.answers.org/holidays/halloween.html

  • http://fromthepulpitofmylife.blogspot.com/ Ruth Ann

    I’m a Catholic since age 3 months. Now I’m sixty-something. That’s a long track record. Anyway, Elizabeth, I am with you on this aspect of child-rearing. It is absolutely true that death is part of life. And children need to know that in a natural way. And that way is for parents to “not freak out” as you put it.

    When close family and/or friends died, including one of our pastors, I took my daughter to the wakes, beginning at age 3 and up. She knelt with me at the open casket of the deceased and we said a little prayer for the soul of the departed. She was fine because I was fine.

    In my own childhood the little boy across the street, my brother’s best friend, died of a burst appendix and our parents took the 3 of us to his wake. We were fine, but sad that little Ricky was no longer with us; yet happy that he was in heaven.

    But, yes, definitely no need for blood and guts exposure.

    You are delightful, Elizabeth!

  • Harper MacDonald

    I love this article almost as much as I love Halloween! Though Halloween did indeed start out as a pagan holiday (the Celtic name for it is Samhain), it isn’t a celebration of evil. Growing up, my mother was a strict protestant, and said that Halloween celebrated the devil. I, on the other hand, was sort of born catholic (at age five I had made myself a set of rosaries, and knew some of the prayers, despite having no immediate relatives who were catholic), and I never had the slightest clue what she was talking about. I always saw it like this: we are not celebrating Satan, we’re celebrating that he really has no power over us. In dressing up as all sorts of creatures of the night (or even Old Nick himself) it’s a chance to laugh in the face of death and darkness. It shows that we, as true-believing christians, are unafraid of the devil, and don’t fear to mock him.
    Furthermore, it’s just good fun. Huzzah for candy!

  • http://buckoutfamily.blogspot.com/ JuRita..mommy of five.

    Interesting post… How our parents raised us truly does effect the way we teach our children. I grew up very New Age, taro cards, talking to spirits and such, watching horror films, ect, household. So I have a hard time looking past the evil of it all. Now I am a God fearing Jesus loving Christian… you bet we do teach our own children what the world has made out of it. For example, one year at Grandpas house (my children at the time were 3 and 4) innocently answered the door to pass out candy (no tracks) and a teenage Grim Reaper, Skeleton, and Zombie were on the other side. Both my little boy and girl screamed in terror (i don’t say that lightly) and I had a VERY hard time to settling down my daughters body from not shaking. She is now 8 and still remembers. Thus, we do make our house dark. For their sake.
    My husband now a childrens pastor. He hosts an invent at our County’s Fairground. We open it to everyone as an option from door to door (plus in Oregon you usually want to stay out of the rain!) :) We incorporate bible activities, bounce houses, petting zoo, candy and tracks. Why not take the opportunity to tell others about Jesus?
    Just curious, how do you teach your children that is a “holy” day? I try avoid making holidays all about “getting”. :)
    Just started reading your blog… good posts that get you thinking. Thanks!!

  • Tara Meghan

    Agreed! That is a fabulous take on something that is definitely a complex issue. We are certainly under no obligation to celebrate the secular side of Halloween to prove that we are cool, any more than we are obligated to hide in the basement to prove we are pious. Being true to our faith is the important thing, and that can look so different between people, depending on our selves and our backgrounds! I love the candy and the costumes and feel confident with drawing the line there, but there are so many things that could have happened in my life to make me feel differently.

  • http://profile.typepad.com/6p0120a86d37ac970b MarytheKay

    Oh, I loved reading what you wrote! I JUST wrote about this very thing last week! Why I don’t boycott Halloween anymore–I just didn’t feel that strongly about it to support a boycott. It’s been so FREEING not to boycott it! http://marythey.typepad.com/marythekaytheblog/2010/10/why-i-dont-boycott-halloween-anymore.html

  • Ammazzamoro

    Spot on!

    Indeed, Halloween marks the beginning of the All Souls indulgence period which lasts from November 1st through November 8th. The purpose of the weeklong period is to spend the whole time praying from the repose of the dearly departed.

    More information on it is archived somewhere on the Vatican website, but sort of tough to find. Instead, here’s a link to a great article on it.
    http://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=3888

  • http://www.laundryandlullabiesblogspot.com Emily

    We’re trying to do something like this. I abhor all the gross, frightening, blood-n-guts halloween stuff that is everywhere this time of year. But even “boycotting” halloween won’t shield my children from seeing that, unless I also quit shopping anywhere for 6 weeks! So we talk about it. We talk a lot about how people try to laugh at death because they’re really scared of it. And how sad that is, because we don’t NEED to be scared of it, because we’re going to be with Jesus when we die. And then we find fun costumes and enjoy collecting candy at our church Halloween Party (yes, we call it “halloween”, not “fall festival”. ;)

  • http://mommynanibooboo.com MommyNaniBooboo

    Any holiday that is about giving away sweet things is okay by me.
    I DO, however, boycott Thursday- I’m just waiting for the rest of the world to follow suit.

  • http://profile.typepad.com/elizabethesther Elizabeth Esther

    BA-HA-HA! Thursday Boycotters, unite!

  • http://www.needsnewbatteries.com Karen

    Oh I agree completely. We went to a church for a while that got steadily more “concerned” about these things (they called it conservative? not sure I get it). At one point someone asked me if we “did” Santa and I blurted out, “Yes! I don’t see any reason being a Christian should ruin my kids’ Christmas.” Happily, my remark was received with relief and good humor.
    Too much people sweating the small stuff. Hurray for Halloween! It is the best chance some of us have of meeting our neighbors – and getting candy!
    Also, I agree. I’m alarmed by the sexy pumpkins. I’m also not a big fan of dressing up myself, as an adult, so I really am not a fan of other adults trying to cajole me into their mandatory fun. I just don’t like other people being in charge of me, I guess. My children, however, love to dress up. Henry is going as “SCIENCE,” it’s really a skeleton costume from Old Navy, but that’s what he is calling it.

  • SaraJ

    We throw an All Saints’ Day party every year. Which gives all our friends a sort of buzz because no one at the party (us included) are Roman Catholic. And most of us grew up in the same anti-Catholic (anti-Halloween) culture. So it’s really pretty daring to invite people to a party and talk about Saints.

    The party has given us a concrete way to show our kids why we can celebrate Halloween. It’s also given us lots of opportunities to discuss why we don’t glorify the dead and the wicked, because Jesus is SO MUCH STRONGER than all those things.

    Sometimes it’s really nice to have you shout out what I feel but don’t say so loudly. :)

    – SJ

  • KatR

    You know one thing I don’t get at all are the churches who don’t participate in Halloween because its “demonic”, but then turn around and put on those hideous “hell houses”. Aimed at children. Because nothing’s better than a night where the goal is the sinner’s prayer with a side of PTSD.

  • http://queenlucythevaliant.blogspot.com/ Lucy The Valiant

    Thank you so much for posting this!!

  • http://therosarytrail.com/ Margo

    You filled in all the blanks that I didn’t cover in my article from two weeks ago that present the day to be what it was and is meant to be. I think of it as a fun day for the children, as it was when I was a child. And tonight I just heard Father Mitch Pacwa on EWTN say something to the effect that when the adults take it over and use the occasion to get dressed up and goofy and drunk and do outlandish things they wouldn’t normally do (he used the word debauchery), that’s when there can be a problem. I wrote this article about the inappropriate side of Halloween. But I do agree with your point and if I had kids I would enjoy seeing them enjoy the day. Thanks again for a great article!
    http://therosarytrail.com/halloween-and-satan/

  • http://www.thepescios.com/Home/Blog/Blog.html JohnP

    Love your blog, Elizabeth and am following it faithfully. We used to avoid Halloween because of all the dark and Satanic images — regardless of the origins, there’s a lot of garbage out there! My sister mentioned that they celebrated Halloween and that it was one of the few times that they got to see their neighbors (someone else posted this earlier). That made a lot of sense to us, and we’ve let our kids dress up and we’ve done the rounds with them, meeting people we wouldn’t otherwise have met.

    Romans 14:1-4: Accept him whose faith is weak, without passing judgment on disputable matters. One man’s faith allows him to eat everything, but another man, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables. The man who eats everything must not look down on him who does not, and the man who does not eat everything must not condemn the man who does, for God has accepted him. Who are you to judge someone else’s servant? To his own master he stands or falls. And he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand.

    If you’re doing Halloween with a clear conscience, enjoy! (And save me some Reese’s!) For the churches that are doing fall festivals, that’s great! Nothing wrong with a whole group of people getting together to have fun and eat sugar!

    Incidentally, we don’t do Santa in our home but have no problem with those who do. (And we’ve ordered our kids to not spoil it for their friends!) As a kid I felt so lied to when I found out the truth; it was devastating. So we made a choice to do what we felt like we could do with integrity.

    Happy Halloween, everyone!

  • http://whitewashedfeminist.wordpress.com Cally Tyrol

    Hey, if you’re Protestant, why not celebrate Reformation Day? Its the anniversary of the day when Martin Luther nailed his 95 theses to the wall at Wittenberg. I think its totally appropriate for Protestants to celebrate THAT day. I can’t believe its shoved aside in favor of a “Harvest Festivals.”

  • http://musings--aloud.blogspot.com Leah

    Stupid sexy costumes indeed. One of my sweet little four year~old students is dressing up as Nicki Minaj this year. Don’t know the gal? Look her up at your own risk.

    This costume was her mother’s idea. *seething*

  • http://profile.typepad.com/buckeyesandydent BuckeyeSandy

    I’ve had this discussion every year with someone since I was a teen. The North American (parts of Canada go “Trick or Treating” too) custom is rooted in the folk-ways of the British Isles, and especially the Irish Catholics.

    Some of the symbols were adopted by “polite society” for party amusements and party themes. So while some have ‘fancy dress’ parties, others kept the folk customs of begging for a treat, with the promise to pray for the souls of the house (giving the treats) and if you did not treat, well who knows what the “spirit” would do (some form of vandalism).

    In the mostly Protestant North American communities, there was no festive time, as is celebrated in parts of Europe in the days leading up to Carnival or Fasching before the season of Lent. Halloween makes up for this.

    Why ghosts, and ghoulies and things oft thought of as evil? Because “dressing up” you adopt the “creature” you fear, and thus conquer that creature. Why fear a ghoul when it is only your neighbor’s son in face paint? Why fear a zombie when it is your daughter in costume? Why fear death when Christ conquered it?

    All Saint’s Eve is a VERY Catholic thing. For some anti-Halloween might be a rejection of the Catholic faith. But more and more I see much of the “anti-Halloween” is a rejection of the ‘god-less’ and ‘self-indulgent’ aspects that mock the faith and teachings of Judaism and Christianity.

  • Valerie

    It is interesting reading this from an Australian perspective, as Halloween has never really been big here. However, this year – the shops are FULL of Halloween stuff. The ghosts, goblins, witches, blood, gore – you name it. To be honest, I cannot see why any christian would really want to be a part of this. TOTALLY not judging, coz folks can do what they like – more like a ‘so what is good about this?’ kind of thing. I’m not afraid, just don’t see much good about it. :)

    We have had kids come to the door in years past – in awful costumes (no cute here – if it is celebrated it is all about the occult, whatever the origins may be) and I’ve given them lollies (candy!) – no biggie – but I don’t see the appeal.

    I have good friends come out of the occult, and, like the poster above, want nothing to do with Halloween at all. The darkness that surrounds especially this day is something that now horrifies them.

    I hope this doesn’t sound judgemental, Elizabeth, because I’m so not. :) Just expressing my viewpoint.

    Valerie

  • http://www.coffeestainedclarity.com Bethany

    I love this perspective, and it helps me feel easier in my mind about the choices my family and I make. We don’t do Santa, but my daughter whose birthday is October 31st has an annual “birthdoween” and looks forward to the dressing up and spooky decor as much as she does the presents and cake. I know a lot of people have good reasons for avoiding Halloween, but those convictions don’t extend to everyone, and in our home, the holiday has always been a source of fun and community.

    “If you’re doing Halloween with a clear conscience, enjoy!” Well said!

  • http://www.sugartails-glowingirl.blogspot.com GlowinGirl

    I think just as with any other holiday, we need to decide with the Lord whether we feel comfortable participating or not . .. and then not judge if other people disagree with us. That’s the tricky part for some. :)

    While I am uncomfortable with the death and gory things being glorified, I can still let my children enjoy dressing up in fun, appropriate, creative costumes without compromising my faith. This year, one of my children is going to be a goofy tourist, another a bubble bath, and another autumn. All “homemade” costumes. It’s fun and, I believe, harmless.

    After that we’re moving on to another holiday with pagan roots — Christmas. ;) We like to party.

  • KatR

    That’s just heartbreaking. Poor kid.

  • susanS

    But my neighbors Make Halloween the holiday, and don’t bother with Mass on All Saints Day.

  • http://sheilascribbles.blogspot.com SheilaScribbles

    I have been around the block on this issue. I grew up (pentecostal preacher’s kid) having Halloween parties at church and trick or treating around the neighborhood (if you got there early enough the neighbor on the corner had caramel apples!). Then as a young adult I was part of a church which decided did not observe in anyway. After I got married, we were part of that for awhile, but decided after having kids that we liked going around to the neighbors and getting candy. We now go to a church that has a Fall Festival, which we participate in (you should see all the cars decorated for Trunk or Treat – dry ice, spiderwebs, glowing jack o’lanterns) and then we trick or treat the neighborhood later. We talk to our kids about the very real evil that is out there. But we have decided this isn’t it. BTW, I had never heard of All Saint’s Day until we started going to our current church (an Evangelical Covenant church) and I love it.

  • http://www.prairiemother-prairiemother.blogspot.com Prairie Mother

    Fabulous posts and fabulous comments!! What wonderful readers you have. I’m all for Halloween and having fun but yeah, nix the sexy costumes.

  • Julia

    Have you folks never heard of All Souls Day? It’s the day before All Saints Day. As a child in Catholic school we were taught to do lots of praying for the souls in purgatory on All Souls Day. Nothing to do with Halloween.

    Both are part of the world-wide Catholic calendar. And both days have to do with people who have died. In my current parish we have a special service for all those who have died in the previous year – parishioners and friends and relatives of parishioners.

    Halloween is only in English-speaking countries.
    Seems like it was originally Ireland where folks noticed that All Souls and All Saints days were about the time of Celtic Samhain. But Ireland and England don’t determine the universal Catholic calendar. All Souls and All Saints days were not invented to Christianize Samhain to please the Celts in the British Isles.

    BTW Your e-mail program is rejecting legitimate e-mail addresses.

  • http://thehomespunlife.com Sisterlisa

    JuRita, We had that same experience when my now 11 yr old was 3. Scared the crud out of her. She was hysterical..the teen at the door was our friend and neighbor and she was very bloody..my little girl thought something bad had happened to her..’out there while trick or treating’. It was one nightmare of a night for her. My son has always been creeped out by the stuff in the stores, we avoid taking the little ones to the store this close to Oct31st.

  • http://thehomespunlife.com Sisterlisa

    Elizabeth, I love that you share your opinions and respect others as well. I have a post I republish every year on my blog..frankly because I see wonderful bloggers get divided and harsh with each other over this topic. We all have our freedom to our own thoughts and opinions..some churches are so fundy about Sunday church, but say they are under grace to celebrate free candy day. We haven’t had anything to do with Halloween in about 8 years..I commented above about what happened to my little girl. But even aside from all that, our town has it’s own culture of Halloween that has a lot of violence. Our city even put down a curfew on Oct 31st to keep the city safe.

    Regardless of how people recognize Oct 31st, or Thor day (gosh that was funny) the bottom line for me is..be kind to one another about it.

    After leaving fundamentalism my kids have asked about getting costumes..like a ninja, tinkerbell, and the karate kid…my husband is fine with it…I’m nervous…I have seen so many times what goes on in this town.

    Why does Halloween have to do with everything scary? It sure has become just another cultural holiday for kids to have fun..but the creepy stuff…ugh!

    oh and Papa Murphy’s gives kids pizza if they come in costume that day.. ;o)

  • http://www.gretchenjoanna.blogspot.com GretchenJoanna

    Pentimento sent me over here, and I am enjoying your discussion very much. You might like to see this blog post I read this week on the same subject, saying much the same thing and giving a rich historical perspective.

    http://margaret-zakachurina.blogspot.com/2010/10/in-defence-of-celts-again-and-again.html

  • melxiopp

    I was at an Orthodox funeral last night with my two year old. The body is referred to as the relics of the person, regardless of ‘how holy’ they were or not. It is the practice to venerate the cross set in the casket near the relics and then venerate (kiss) the person’s crossed hands. I did this. My two year old then waved to her and said, nigh’-nigh’ thinking she was asleep (which she is). He then wanted to give her a kiss good night, which he also does to wake people up (like Prince Charming).

    Scott Cairns has a section in his “Short Trip to the Edge” about the burial practices on Mount Athos in Greece. The monks bury the body for a couple years (can’t remember if it is directly in the ground or in a simple pine casket). The (now) bones are exhumed a couple years later to make room for others. The bones are moved to the ossuary where the skulls are organized and the rest of the bones are piled together with all the others.

  • Cyndi Johnson

    I totally agree with you Kelly. The more I get to know of my Heavenly Father, the less I want to give credence to the Father of Lies. We have raised 5 children, actually still have one at home, and have tried to find other activities that night for them, but nowadays, Halloween encompasses much more than one day. It is a challenge but one worth taking on. My heart says, “Really? You are willing to compromise your pursuit of righteousness for some candy and a costume?” Not worth it for me!

  • http://profile.typepad.com/erikaerin Erika

    We are one of those families that didn’t do Halloween when we were kids and neither did my husband so in succession, neither have my kids. This is the year that we are actually going to go trick-or-treating (my kids are 10 and 11) and they’re very excited about it. We’re going as a family. The kids and I are dressing as hippies (my daughter says I already pass because I’ve had dreads for the past 4 years) and my hubby is going as the grim reaper. He’ll wear a sign that says, “The 60s are dead.” HA!

  • Sarahstew

    My husband and I debated a bit about this whole thing the year our son hit kindergarten – should he dress up or not? What are we celebrating – etc.? Ultimately the Lord gave us peace about our kids being involved in what is for most kids a dress up day – or masquerade, if you will.

    It used to be that there were many opportunities for masquerade balls and parties which we no longer have (bummer!) and this gives the kids the chance to put their creativity to work making costumes or embellishing store bought ones. We do emphasize that the kids are to choose a “good guy” – someone that they emulate (usually someone who fights evil.. :) We usually end up with superheroes (although I’m holding out for them going as the minor prophets some year! ;)

    I remember that the few years we were allowed to dress up when I was in grade school we had to be Bible characters. Of course that meant Queen Esther every year! :) Though I did manage to be Pippi Longstocking in kinder…

    For the record, I think handing out positive, clear and appropriate tracts (WITH candy!) can be a good thing – however some of the Chick tracts are down right scary and really I think appropriate more for teens or adults if that… we didn’t hand out those with the toothbrushes… :)

    Enjoying the discussion as always!

  • http://margaret-zakachurina.blogspot.com Margaret

    Hello Elizabeth, I have just finished my annual rant about how the poor old Celts weren’t devil-worshippers and the Christian origins of ‘souling’, etc. It’s so refreshing to hear a Christian mother saying she doesn’t think Hallowe’en is evil per se. I’m sorry to hear about the costumes because the thing I like best about it is seeing troupes of little giggling kids dressed up. Last year I saw 2 little boys as Jack and the Beanstalk – their mum was having hysterics trying to get all of the beanstock on the bus having got a bit carried away with herself making it. I laughed all night.

  • http://moss-place.stblogs.org Peony Moss

    All Souls and All Saints days were not invented to Christianize Samhain to please the Celts in the British Isles.

    Ayup.

    (All Soul’s Day (Nov. 2) is the day after All Saints (Nov 2))

  • http://pursuingparenthood.blogspot.com Lisa

    This is hilarious! And so true! We are Catholic and have a lot of ultra-con Catholic friends who are very cautious about Halloween…emphasizing All Saints and All Souls and not even mentioning the “H” word. If their kids are allowed to wear costumes, they are religiously-themed. I’m not against dressing as your favorite saint, but I also don’t see any harm in dressing as a cowboy or a pumpkin. (However, “sexy cowboy” and “sexy pumpkin” costumes will ALWAYS be forbidden in this house.) I’m not much for costumes of scary ghouls and such, but there are a lot of options for kids who just want to dress up and have a fun time. And then we go to Mass the next day. Because it’s a holy day, y’all. And we never forget that.

  • http://profile.typepad.com/elizabethesther Elizabeth Esther

    Cyndi: do you really look at those of us Christians who participate in Halloween and your heart says “You are willing to compromise your pursuit of righteousness for some candy and a costume?”

    Honestly, that seems fairly harsh. I respect those who, for conscience sake, bow out of celebrating ANY holiday. But it’s quite a different thing to presume to judge and know the motivation of their heart.

    Frankly, I find that kind of presumption rather disrespectful.

  • http://www.thepescios.com/Home/Blog/Blog.html JohnP

    Good for you. Happy birthday to your daughter!

  • Julia

    Sorry, I got the dates backwards.

    It appears that the Anglicans in England combined the dates of All Saints and All Souls days on November 1st – so that must be where Halloween on October 31st (All Hallows’ Eve) came from.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Souls%27_Day

  • http://www.ericpazdziora.com Eric

    Further discussion fodder. In some (probably entirely reasonable) synchronicity, there were lately some very good articles on “Parchment and Pen” from a theological POV:

    Jesus with His Lights Turned Off on Halloween contends that not participating in Halloween is an un-Christlike response– who said “Let the little children come?”

    Halloween: A Missed Opportunity for Evangelicals argues that, whatever the holiday means, it’s a prime opportunity in our culture to show the love of Jesus to our neighbors, and our insularity blows it.

    This one by Dr. Mark Young: In our culture, the Jack-o’-Lantern is indeed highly symbolic–It says, “Welcome to our house, we’re good neighbors who will be glad to give you some candy!” What does it say when Christian houses are always dark?

    Five words sum up my own view on the subject entirely: Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein.

  • Harper MacDonald

    Hey, there have been some hilarious comments about Thursday/Thor’s day, and I just thought everyone might like to know that all the days of the week except Saturday come from Norse mythology:
    Sunday stems from ‘the sun’s day’ (well, I never!),
    Monday comes from ‘the moon’s day’,
    Tuesday comes from Tyr, god of war,
    Wednesday is in honour of Woden, another name for the deity Odin,
    Friday pays homage to Woden’s wife, Frigga,
    And Saturday comes from Saturn, a Roman deity.
    Also, I agree with the general consensus to ditch the sexy costumes (it’s more fun to be a banshee or a ghost anyway).

  • Jenelyn Russo

    Great discussion here. At our house, we participate in Halloween on a very tame level. We have a wonderful street with awesome families who all have young kids similar in age to ours. As with many holidays, we turn it into a time of gathering and hanging out as neighbors. One neighbor makes a large pot of chili and we socialize a bit until the sun goes down, then we walk our street together so the kids can get some candy. That’s pretty much it. No one around here does the “blood and guts” decorations. We all have pumpkins, scarecrows, and fall leaves as decor. It’s about dress-up and seeing the creative costumes more than anything else (plus the candy). The kids love it. The adults enjoying chatting and catching up. We all take pictures and comment on how fast the kids are growing. I understand this may be unique and if we didn’t live in an environment like this, we might be doing it different, but this works for us. And I *heart* my neighborhood.

  • http://www.madamerubies.com Heather

    I learned this recently and got a good giggle at the idea of AFR boycotting the days of the week.

  • http://mecerone.blogspot.com Mary Beth

    Oh NO! there are 66 comments which is ALMOST 666, so i need to comment and make your blog more holy!!

    Okay really though, I have friends who are very concerned about the amount of demonic activity they feel on this night, and out of consideration for them, I am having a “silly, not spooky” party. There will be candy and cartographic spider cookies, and absolutely no witches or brews.

    But I always went trick or treating. Even the year my sister’s 3rd grade teachers told her she was going to hell if she did…

  • http://mecerone.blogspot.com Mary Beth

    One of these days i’m going to finish my Katy Von Bora dress and convince my husband to shave the middle of his head into a Luther/monk -do and we’re totally going to our church’s fall festival as everyone’s favorite reformers. ;)

  • La Muse

    The thing about Halloween being a holy day… that’s not true. Yes, “hallow” means “holy,” and “een” is a contraction for “evening.” But that actually means that Halloween is the day BEFORE a holy day. Think of Christmas Eve — the day before Christmas. The name Halloween comes from All Hallows Eve, which is the day BEFORE All Hallows, or All Saint’s Day.

    Typically, the celebrations before holy days like that are NOT holy. But if you choose to celebrate Halloween, I believe that you personally make your celebration either holy or unholy.

  • http://MeditativeMeanderings.blogspot.com Susanne Barrett

    In our small town, Halloween provides the opportunity to visit our neighbors, hang out with them for a while, and let kids collect candy and see their friends. My dh isn’t crazy about it, but I grew up Trick or Treating and my kids love it, too. I get a little insular with home schooling, so it’s great to see all the public school and home school parents I rarely get to see on a daily basis. A Christian friend of mine hosts a party for the adults in her front yard and we all hang out together while the older kids take the younger ones around. It’s just neighborly around here, and I wouldn’t miss this opportunity to see and visit with so many non-Christians in my town.

  • http://www.thejoyofhome.blogspot.com Dianna

    Elizabeth, I actually agree with you! Surprise! We have friends who are completely against Halloween, but we don’t see any harm in our kids dressing up as characters they like and asking for candy. This year we will go to our church’s fall festival mainly because my husband is the pastor and we are expected to be there! As long as Halloween is about kids dressing up for fun (I don’t like scary) and getting candy, what’s the big deal? Besides my husband says our kids are already going to be different because we are going to homeschool, why make them any weirder?

  • Rhonda

    We have done some small celebrations for Reformation Day. My family isn’t really big into celebrating elaborately. Not that we think it is wrong, or don’t like it, we just don’t. We get pretty into Thanksgiving and somewhat into Christmas, and, of course, we celebrate the Resurrection. Other holidays tend to have a smaller celebration. Of course, with my family everything is different from year to year (as far as what we do – sometimes we go to friends, sometimes we have friends over.)

  • Caryl

    This is a great post. My friend said I celebrate the Devil when I celebrate Halloween. I laughed so hard… I told her she needed to work on some independent research. We agreed to disagree.

    Part of Halloween is how it’s addressed with our children; what we tell them about Halloween, it’s beginnings, what is appropriate to wear, etc.

    Frankly, as a practicing Catholic, I don’t think much about it other than it’s a time for kids, little and big alike, to play dress-up and make-believe.

    XO
    Caryl

  • Julia

    Actually, we inherited the ancient practice of the Jews that holy days (in fact, all days) begin after night fall the evening before. That continued even when the secular world in the West started considering midnight the start of the new day. The eves of Christmas and Easter, in particular, are marked as the earliest part of those holy days.

    So All Hallow’s Eve is part of the holy day.

    For Catholics, attending services on the eve of holy days and regular Sundays is deemed the same as attending on the holy day/Sunday. I don’t know about other churches.

  • Julia

    Actually, Christians inherited the Jewish practice of the new day starting at nightfall. When the secular world changed to midnight being the start of the new day, the church kept the concept of nightfall the day before as the start of holy days and Sundays.

    The most obvious are Christmas Eve and the Eve of what the West calls Easter.

    Catholics can satisfy their attendance at Mass for most holy days and all regular Sundays by Mass the evening before the holy day or Sunday. I don’t know about other churches.

  • http://whitewashedfeminist.wordpress.com Cally Tyrol

    One of the best perspectives I’ve read so far…

    http://www.johnsanidopoulos.com/2010/10/whos-afraid-of-halloween.html

  • http://www.storinguptreasures.com Courtney

    LOVED this post. Shared a link to it on my blog today. Very much how I feel.

  • Margaret

    I agree with you that boycotts aren’t necessary, and that the “pagan” objections are just annoying (and possibly anti-Catholic)

    I also agree with you about inappropriate costumes. Ick, pthuey! I hate the costume ads with little, little girls dressed up as “sexy” this and “sexy” that. And who is teaching them the fine art of looking seductive, at that age?

    There are plenty of super-cute options. My friend dressed her family all as characters from Winnie the Pooh. Awesome!

    All of that said, we don’t dress up or go trick or treating. We’ll pass out candy, but stay at home to do it. We love the harvest parties that happen around this time. But for my husband in particular, the gleeful death-and-gore stuff is too prevalent. It’s just one of those things we’re not interested in. No need to theologize or doctrinize it.

  • http://www.gsheller.com Ginny

    I agree with you… but we still don’t do Halloween. Some of my kids can’t handle the “scariness” and some of them can’t handle the candy. So we just skip it.

  • Margaret

    Yeah to that.

    There were a couple of years where I couldn’t take my kids into Walgreens for the month of October. Every single one of them around here had huge, horrible, gorey, freaky garbage/decor hanging from the ceilings. At the time my kids were 5 and under and they just couldn’t handle it.

    Now my middle kid thinks it’s all hilarious, and he seems to be able to see that even the worst of it (we saw a 10 year old zombie butcher tonight, how lovely) is just plasticky, fake stuff. But my oldest and my youngest are still nervous about it.

  • Robyn

    Disjointed comments:

    My kids are still little and they’re scared of the gory stuff. So we don’t have to address that yet.

    Halloween is not a real holiday because you don’t get the day off work or school.

    Actually I could pretty much do without Halloween, but by boycotting it, I would just be giving it power, you know? So we do the basic trick-or-treating and stuff. No Halloween “decorations” because this is an oxymoron. Halloween eyesores is more like it.

    I wish our (CATHOLIC) church would do an All-Saints-Day party instead of a “Halloween Carnival” on the Saturday before the 31st. How lame. And secular.

    Come to think of it, “lame” and “secular” go together an awful lot.

    I want to make my baby, who will be 18 months old next year, a rooster costume. Wouldn’t that be cute? Actually, I’d rather buy it, but I think it would be hard to find, and anyway I’m really cheap.

  • http://www.pastaandwaffles.blogspot.com Caroline

    I totally agree with you here. In fact, I read somewhere (I’m sorry, I can’t remember the place) that the idea of wearing scary masks was to mock the evil pagan gods. It was a “hallowed” night because it’s saying “Wow, what are y’all thinking? Look how silly it is to believe in something so evil and cruel.”

  • )O(

    Halloween most certainly is not “evil”, but it is very much connected to Samhain (a Pagan holiday) as well as All Saint’s Day.  Some of the traditions behind it come from the Pagans.  The association with death comes from the belief that it’s a day when the veil between this world and the spirit worlds is at it’s thinnest- not a time of evil or what-have-not, but a time to remember our ancestors and honor the dead.  Many holidays that Christianity claims do have very strong Pagan connections in their traditions.   Despite this, that doesn’t mean Christians have to celebrate Halloween (or Christmas/ Yule, Easter/ Ostara) as Pagan holidays or else go without; you can still have them as yours.  You just shouldn’t deny the historical fact behind them.