BJU: a system of learned helplessness

I never really intended for my site to become the Bust-BJU-Blog but now, it’s personal. I just learned that my own grandmother attended BJU. You know, the one who forced me to repent on my knees? Yeah, a lot of shit is falling into place. Oops, 150 demerits for profanity!

I’ve been out of fundamentalism for almost 10 years but I’m horrified–HORRIFIED–to discover that the systematized oppression of my childhood is as large and powerful as an entire university. I simply had no idea.

It’s like waking up from a nightmare only to realize your nightmare is actually real. At least now I know where my grandmother got her training: BJU. It’s all starting to make sense.

Some of the dissenting comments on my recent BJU posts have suggested that despite the rules, BJU isn’t that bad and people can go on to live healthy, successful lives after graduating. Yes, OK. We all agree that human beings can survive ugly situations. And some of them even go on to live successful, happy, fulfilled lives.

But that proves NOTHING. I find that argument absolutely hollow. It’s like the argument some people use for spanking: I was spanked as a kid and I turned out fine!

For those of us who were spanked until our “will was broken,” we turned out fine IN SPITE of the thousands of spankings–not BECAUSE we were spanked. There’s a huge difference.

Yes, I survived my childhood cult. Yes, I’ve gone on to live a fairly successful life. But I can tell you right now that it has felt like CLAWING my way out of a pit. I was messaging with a family member recently who told me the same thing: sometimes we are just absolutely blindsided by pain from our shared pasts. It never, ever, ever goes away. You just learn different coping mechanisms.

When you are raised in a fundamentalist environment, it’s like your body and soul are branded with hot iron. What BJU has created is a system of learned helplessness. Did you notice that almost every single action requires prior approval? And even after approval, you are required to check in and check out. On top of that, other people are checking on you. Reporting on you.

I remember that well. That was precisely how my fundamentalist church operated. What happens when you live like this is that you never develop your own decision-making skills. 

You’re constantly seeking prior approval for everything. After awhile, you can’t LIVE without permission. You begin to panic when faced with a decision–how will you ever make this decision without approval/permission from the “God-given authorities” in your life?!

One of the things I had to work on in therapy was not apologizing for everything and also not feeling compelled to explain everything I did. I had been raised to believe every decision Reverberated Through Eternity! and so I was always ready with “Biblical reasons” for ANY decision I made. It was like I couldn’t do something without a Bible verse to back it up.

And even then, I agonized over whether I had made a decision “outside of God’s will.” I doubted myself and second-guessed myself all the time. Basically, I didn’t know how to be an adult outside of the religious rule system. Like BJU, the rules in my church were so focused on the minutia of my external behavior that I believed that’s what God cared about, too.

It was like: as long as I kept my hair naturally colored, neat and feminine I could leave all the big decisions to God! I didn’t have to make decisions about whom I’d marry or whether I’d get a job after college. I just needed to keep my hemlines low and my necklines high.

When the pain hits, I focus on what is very good in my life right now. I have five wonderful, healthy children. I have a steady, faithfully loving husband. I focus, focus, focus on those things until the darkness ebbs and my mind stops howling.

But does the fact that I’ve gone on to live a good life after fundamentalism mean I’d want my kids to grow up that way? Over.my.dead.body.

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  • Rachel

    And a big hearty  ”BRAVO” from me. This is one of my new favorite posts from you! I really loved this line: 
    “ I didn’t have to make decisions about whom I’d marry or whether I’d get a job after college. I just needed to keep my hemlines low and my necklines high.”
    I also liked how you focus on the present to combat the pain. Very brave and wise of you!

    All my love!

  • http://www.joshbarkey.com/ Josh Barkey

    Totally. I linked one of your BJU posts on facebook and this fundamentalist(ish) friend of mine got a bit defensive on behalf of people who went there, saying that they seemed well-adjusted, rational and thinking. Although I agreed that going somewhere isn’t the same as being the person who wrote those rules, I asked him to define those terms. 

    I wasn’t really subjected to that shnizzle to that degree (thank God), so it’s easier for me to not care WHAT they do to their inmates, but I agree with you – it’s ASTOUNDING, when you get out of it, to discover that this stuff still exists. 

  • theresaEH

    Sing it LOUD lady, sing it LOUD!!! Just because”we turned out ok” does not mean we cannot break the trend of this abuse!!!

  • http://twitter.com/WriteSierraDawn Sierra Dawn

    I can relate so much to this post. My church did the same asking-for-permission thing. The worst thing about it is that they don’t call it permission, they call it advice. 

    Ask for advice before you decide to go away for college to a city without one of our world-wide churches in it. Ask for advice before you go on a date with someone. (And, if you do go on that date, for God’s sake, don’t let yourself be alone with him! You might give into temptation! Much better to go on only double dates until you’re married, and then have no idea what to do when on your wedding night you’re alone for the first time with the person you’ve already agreed to spend the rest of your life with.)But, if you decide to take advantage of your free will and not follow said advice, you’re sinning!

    It all just leads to self-hate. Which makes no sense under their own system of beliefs if God supposedly loves you unconditionally, and in fact, IS love.

    All of these issues (and more!) are things that the main character of my book go through. So I could quite literally write a novel about it. lol

    • Pamela

      The self-hate they teach, makes it easier to control you.  Been there, done that, in two different churches. 

    • KatR

      Sierra, did you by any chance used to be a part of the ICC? (If you don’t mind saying) Because I did and this all sounds way too familiar.

  • Anonymous

    Wow, this really made me think. I scarily related to the learend helplessness/inability to make decisions…I didn’t grow up in a fundamentalist cult, but I do think I’ve experienced it more subtle ways in Christian communities. Thanks for speaking out passionately!

  • http://somuchshoutingsomuchlaughter.com/ suzannah {the smitten word}

    oh, friend. no one would call you helpless now. so thankful you found your voice, God’s grace, and this healing path. 

  • Zeckle3

    My best friend’s aunt and uncle worked for BJU–and are now so thankful for being freed from that abusive system. Yes, decent people can come out of abusive families and systems but they are still broken in ways no human should have ever been. Just because decent people can by God’s grace and sheer determination overcome the abuse does not justify an abusive system. 
    My grandmother was an alcoholic. She attempted kill herself and my father and uncle on a couple of occasions. And yet I hear, she could play the organ wonderfully. When she was sober, she was a very nice and loving mother. Just because she could play the organ and my uncle and dad can function in this world does not justify her abuse.
    Thank you for your voice and fight to restore health in you, protect your children, and to liberate others.

  • Mara

    And I never intended for my blog to be a “Bust Driscoll” blog. I was just going to talk about general things using some specifics as examples, as to what makes women bitter using myself as an example that people could either learn from or not.
     
    Then, when I found out about Driscoll and all the things he does to twist scripture to abuse and oppress women and turn them into objects for their husbands using Bible verses that I used for healing?…. Well, let’s just say that the gloves came off.
     
    Now I see this happening to you. And I think it is safe to say that the gloves have come off and you are going to do whatever you can to expose this institution for what it is.

    You go girl!

    • Alexandra

      Which is your blog?  I want to read what you have to say about Driscoll.

  • KatR

    This is what gets me about the “people can choose to go to BJU” argument. What about the kids of graduates who then get indoctrinated with this? What choice to they have? What about people who are searching for God who have the horrible bad luck of falling in with this crowd, and learning that THIS is how you avoid burning in hell?

    • Christine Hughes

      Plus, a lot of people somehow don’t seem to realize that in the U.S., people DON’T get to choose where they go to university unless 1) their parents allow them to, or 2) they wait until they’re 25 to go. If a student’s parents will not provide their financial information, the student can’t get financial aid. And if the parents are unwilling to make the financial contribution that the university expects, the student likely cannot get financial aid to make up the difference. 

      It’s a real bind for young adults, because they’re forced to rely on their parents’ mercy in order to go to university, but there are no laws requiring parents to fulfill their part of the deal. If parents aren’t willing to pony up the information and the money the student needs, the student is screwed, and there are no legal repercussions for the parents who are choosing to prevent their legal adult offspring from being educated. 

      Even if parents DO pony up the money for school, there are no laws restricting what they can require of their offspring in exchange for that money, barring outright criminal behaviour. Legal adults can be forced to live with their parents or submit to emotional abuse in order to continue their education. Child protective services do not help these young adults, because the fact that they’re adults supposedly means they’re free to leave–but they’re really not!

      So, a lot of students at institutions (I’m reluctant to dignify them with the term “universities”) like BJU don’t actually have a choice about being there. The alternative is to try to get a job that pays a living wage without a college education, which is pretty much impossible. As a result, these legal adults who have done nothing wrong are expected to submit to a prison-like environment, just so they can get the education they need to earn a living!

    • Anonymous

      Are those of you writing on this blog professing born again believers of Jesus Christ?  Some have mentioned cults in conjunction to a school, churches, etc…what do you define as a cult?  I’m confused because there is so much anger directed toward authority, parents, a university, schools, churches, etc.  but I would ask where you see God’s sovereignty in all of this?  Do you not believe that God can take hardship and make something good of it?  Did not God allow Satan to take everything from Job accept his life and yet Job did not curse God.  He believed that in the end God is still in control and was working all things out for Job’s good and His glory.  I’m NOT saying that all things that happen are good.  Many things happen that are evil and wicked but even in those we have to say that God is still in control.  We live in a sin cursed world where bad things happen.  It is up to us to respond correctly…hate sin but not the sinner, despise wrong but pray for the one doing the wrong knowing that anyone of us could be doing that same wrong.  “He that hath no sin, cast the first stone.”  

      As an adult we are responsible for our own actions, sin, and responses/reactions to other people.  Don’t live in the past and continue to dredge up old hurts, frustrations, anger, etc.  This isn’t living in Christian harmony. 

  • Sherry

    A-freaking-men!!

    This culture of legalism isn’ t just in the IFB church. I attended a small Pentecostal college in the same town.  Their rules virtually mirrored BJU’s.  It seemed that the demerit system didn’t work very well, though.  We were given fines…yes, monetary fines!  My (now)husband and I were late getting home from spring break one week and he given a fine.  We wanted to get married on a specific date.  We were told that if we went ahead with it, we would have to leave the college.  

    Anyway, every point you made is spot-on.  It’s disturbing and disgusting.  

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=706307623 Charity Aikens

    THANK YOU for speaking out against this type of fear based religious culture! As a kid I was very sheltered from all things “worldly” & “sinful” and raised with A LOT of very strict rules &  harsh discipline when a rule was broken. Girl, THIS LINE SAYS IT ALL:  ”You’re constantly seeking prior approval for everything. After awhile, you can’t LIVE without permission”. I grew up to be a person who did everything anyone I viewed as “authority” told me to do. Even now it I hear someone I view as “authority” say something I don’t agree with, I still second guess myself & have to consciously choose to trust my own instinct.

    PLEASE keep writing about this topic! It BLOWS MY MIND how many people are caught up in this false christianity. It’s 2012 for crying out loud!!!

  • http://stitchinguptheseams.wordpress.com/ Stitching Seams

    “One of the things I had to work on in therapy was not apologizing for everything and also not feeling compelled to explain everything I did.” Wow. This is me, right now.  My best friend once told me, “You don’t owe me an explanation. It’s okay.” That was so liberating! And yet I still feel I must explain myself at all times. And apologize for existing, for having opinions, for following God on my own regardless of a man “leading” me.

    I also have a thing with authority. Or rather, perceived authority. When I go to the gynecologist, sometimes I don’t tell her if I’m having pain or other irregularities. Because I don’t want to bother her. After all, she’s busy. What’s my pain in the scope of things? And when she tells me to lose weight, it takes everything in me to say that I’m doing what I can and it’s not working because of this damn disease I have. When mentors from my old fundamentalist life scold me for leaving the Plymouth Brethren churches, leaving “the truth” in search of “an experience,” it’s everything in me to not cower, bow down, submit, and say, “Yes, you’re right, you’re right, I’m so sorry, I don’t know what I was thinking.”

    It’s so hard out here. But at least it’s freedom. I’d rather have a hard-fought freedom than an easy tyranny.

    • Elizpatte

      Elizabeth’s words here resonated with me as well. I went to a fundamentalist school from 6-12th grade, and I ALWAYS sought permission and approval for every decision. Down to what color my nails were painted. If someone, “God-given authority,” showed any sign of disapproval, my first instinct was to apologize and explain rather than know it’s completely okay that I had blue nail polish. And to this day (28 years old, college graduate, mother, professional), I still struggle to find the confidence to do what I believe is good and right. I recently had a conversation with my BOSS about how I know I need to take charge and run with my ideas-I don’t need permission! I’m slowly…very slowly…getting better at not being so damn helpless, as Elizabeth eloquently describes it.

  • TLR

    Over my dead body too. Amen, sister. Let’s call brainwashing and cult-like behavior what it is: BRAINWASHING AND CULT-LIKE BEHAVIOR. A few wonderful people surviving it does not make it any less terrible.

  • Michelle Hughes

    That is such a great point, Elizabeth.  You know, I wasn’t abused in my faith growing up, thank God.  I have often said something similar about less-than-good situations where people “turned out okay”…it was IN SPITE of their less-than-good circumstances.  Just think how much healthier we’d all be if we didn’t have to grow up or grow period in situations that are less-than-good?

  • Joebronx3

    First of all, full disclosure:  I’m a BJU grad.  In fact, I was a Bible major (and am presently a pastor of a Bible church in the Bronx). 

    But it is also fair for me to say that if BJU even knew who I am, they would have “separated” from me a long time ago.  They wouldn’t like the way people in our church dress.  They wouldn’t like the translation of the Bible we use.  And I am QUITE sure that they would hate our music.  So honestly, I have absolute no real need to defend my alma mater.

    I’ll concede that there probably is a judgmental spirit among some (I will not concede all) of the staff  and faculty.  I saw it when I attended there 35 years ago.

    But I’m reading the comments here, and so many seem SO ANGRY!  I don’t find that healthy or productive.  I am a Bible-believing Christian.   But a long time ago I decided that I am not the same kind of Christian that many Bob Jones University people are.  And I am not the same kind of Christian that most Independant Fundamental Baptists are.  I just try to quietly live by the Bible and help others find God.  One day God will sort all of that stuff out.  But if I develop a hostile, condemning spirit toward those “other kids of Christians,” in many ways I’m no better than they are.

    • KatR

      People are told  how short to have their hair and how long to have their skirts and when to put their shades down and when to go to bed and when they can leave campus and when to the minute they have to be back and the exact number and gender mix of groups that they can hang out with and the music they can listen to and the tv shows they can watch, and you’ll “concede that there probably is a judgmental spirit among some of the staff and faculty”?

      Maybe people are angry because there are still Christians trying to soft-sell this insanity.

      • Joebronx3

        I appreciate your reply.  Please know that I am NOT defending some of their ridiculous rules.

        But I’m not sure it is fair to equate strict rules with a judgmental spirit.  I think it is possible to have one without the other.

        • Miss Jones

          It’s when those “ridiculous rules” are perceived as righteous living approved by God that it crosses the line. It’s bullshit. And yes, where there are strict rules, judgmental spirits reign.  Even the gracious among them are silenced.

          • Joebronx3

            You wrote, “It’s when those “ridiculous rules” are perceived as righteous living approved by God that it crosses the line.  It’s bullshit.”  I actually agree with that.  In fact, I could make it a sermon title–OK, I’d have to reword it a little :)

            You also said, “Where there are strict rules, judgmental spirits reign.”  Although that can be a tendancy, it is not always the case.  I was raised in a pretty strict home, but there was not a judgmental spirit, not at all. 

      • Anonymous

        Did you ever once seek out someone on the faculty or staff and ask, in love and with respect, why they had instituted these guidelines?  Did they see this as a mode of protection for the students coming to their school?  There is a lot of responsibility that comes with running a campus.  How many students go to this school?  I’m sure there are many if it’s a university.  What are the statistics of murder, rape, drunk parties, etc. where people are getting hurt?  If it’s a Christian university then I’m sure they feel even more responsibility than a state university would for the protection of their students.  State universities…you hear all the time about murders, missing people, rapes, etc. 

        I’m not saying that the university you attended is doing everything right but I am saying that maybe you should look at from their standpoint.  Also, if you didn’t like it you could have gotten a job and moved out on your own and gone to a state university.  Just a thought.  :-)

    • Zeckle3

      Jesus got angry as he entered the temple and saw injustices. Being angry with injustice is ok. The Church should be angry with every human who is demeaned and abused. And there are always good people who participate in an abusive system–unfortunately they hold up and support the abusive system–they are enablers.
      If we cannot get angry with abusive systems, what can we be angry about?  The Bible commands be angry but do not sin. So anger is not destructive and sinful. acting out of it is.
      Third, for those who have been abused by systems like BJU, anger is part of the healing process. They must grieve the innocence and health they lost under the abuse. And grief and anger go hand in hand. To tell anyone to not be angry is to keep them from fully healing.
      Encourage them to not sin out of their anger. But I don’t see any one in my brief reading of the comments who are calling people who go to school there or work there names, demeaning them, or falsely accusing BJU of anything.

      • Joebronx3

         I appreciate your response.  When you call “good people” who serve at BJU (or places like it), “enablers” you make an interesting point.  I’m not sure I entirely agree, but it has given me something to think about.

        You are right.  Anger is not always evil.  No argument here.  But long-term anger and bitterness is destructive to the person who owns it.  And respectfully, I see no biblical basis that “anger is part of the healing process.”    I do believe that the choice to drop the  bitterness and anger and replace them with kindness and forgiveness, IS the biblical formula for true healing. (Eph. 4:31-32)

        • Zeckle3

          In order to heal from a loss, one must grieve–embrace grief and anger is part of grief. And when moving to health, one must let go of the grief at one point or else they do get angry and bitter. But grief and anger are natural and one must move through those in order to come to health. If one bypasses grief and anger after a loss, one simply buries them and they surface in their behavior later on and in destructive manners. and anyone who has been abused needs to grieve the loss of their innocence, loss of trust, loss of security.
          No that is not in the Bible, that is in counseling and psychological texts. But the Bible is not a text book–for psychology, counseling, science etc. The Bible can direct us and inform us and shape us and correct us….be angry and do not sin….so right there we are instructed in how to handle anger in part. But The Bible is not comprehensive in many things. And therefore, the fact that anger is part of the grieving process and one needs to go through the grieving process in order to find health….

  • Incongruous Circumspection

    Love you, kid.  I get it.

  • http://faithandfood.morizot.net/ Scott Morizot

    Human beings are remarkably resilient. But for every person who manages to overcome and even thrive — whatever the situation might have been — there are always those who were crushed, who did not rise above their circumstances, and who did not have a happy ending.

    We tend to like the success stories and the happy ending and focus on those, though as you note even the “happy” endings are usually less problem free than we might wish them to be. (“Fine” covers a huge range.) So we tend to sweep the less successful stories under the rug, sometimes even blaming those who have been crushed for failing to rise beyond their circumstances.

    Peace. I know the ferocious over.my.dead.body feeling when it comes to my kids.

  • http://twitter.com/MInTheGap MInTheGap

    At my previous place of employment, I was told what I could and couldn’t wear, when I was allowed to work, when I could leave early, and what I could and couldn’t have displayed on my arms.  Women were not allowed to wear flip flops and were told only dresses of a certain length that covered certain amounts of skin was appropriate.  I had to get approval for taking time off multiple days in advance.  I had to call in when I went on assignment so people knew where I was– some had to carry cell phones and pagers so they could be reached at all times.

    I wore a badge that I had to display and use to gain access and leave the facility.  If I go back to visit, even though I’m a previous employee with good standing, I get an “escort required” badge.

    This is much the same for my professional life– rules are given, there are expectations for behavior, and some of them seem to treat adults like children.

    I’m sorry for what happened to you, EE, but you’re way over the line here.  You’ve totally blown the proportions on how people turn out of BJU, completely flipping the percentages.

    I am a BJU grad, and I know of people that were shipped and came back.  All you know is the rules, you don’t know the heart, and yet you judge the heart.  You and the comments I read here are mostly angry, bitter and projecting.

    There is a big difference between a  place one goes for education for a period of 4-6 years and then is expected to leave and a place where they use any means at their disposal to force you to stay.

    Lastly, “the fact that a few come out fine is an empty argument” means that the fact that a few come out and end up in a cult abusing others is an empty argument.  Without comparing the statistics, both of these are empty.

    • Zeckle3

      1. a job may have dress codes which allows the company to set forth the image they would like. But a Christian college, and I attended one, speaks more than just the image they would like to keep up. There is an underlying value “if you are a good Christian and really love Christ, then you will dress in this manner.” I remember talking with the president of the college I attended and we discussed the dress code and why they enforce it…it was because the board members believed that Christians dress in a certain manner.
      2 “Lastly, “the fact that a few come out fine is an empty argument” means that the fact that a few come out and end up in a cult abusing others is an empty argument.  Without comparing the statistics, both of these are empty.” Really? One harmed is too many. I don’t believe martin luther, John Wesley, the Booths or MLK Jr. would agree with you that the argument that there are those who are hurt by BJU is an empty one.  They argued that as long as one was being mistreated everyone’s humanity was being demeaned. I am sorry you cannot see how your own humanity is effected by the abuse of others. The Jewish term Shalom means roughly peace and wholeness. Many rabbis teach that one cannot have true peace and wholeness as long as there are those who are struggling and broken.
      I love my Christian college and Seminary but where they have been harmful to some, I would still call them to reform and stop the harmful policies and behavior. While the harm done does not negate the fact that you had a good experience and were strengthen spiritually there, the good you experienced does not justify continuing their harmful practices.

      • http://twitter.com/MInTheGap MInTheGap

         1. See, when a person sits on the outside in judgement , it’s awful easy to project on the people on the inside.  One of the required classes as you become an upperclassman is “Christian Living Forum” and in every one of these the administration answers questions from the floor.  Invariably, dress code comes up, and the answer isn’t anything to do with “this is what a Christian must wear”, but it’s two fold:

        a. We are readying you for a professional world and you need to build a professional wardrobe and

        b. There are some rules in the book that are Scriptural and some that are practical.  Practically, everyone knows what a knee looks like, so if we say girl’s skirts can’t show the knee, we don’t have to get out rulers.

        I liken this to the law.  I mean, if you want to talk about the number of rules placed on a people, nothing (but the current U.S. law system where practically everyone’s a criminal) comes close to Leviticus.  In there we have three types of law– types that are an offense to God, types that are ceremonial, and types that are practical.  I firmly believe “don’t eat pig” was not because pigs were of the Devil, but were not clean animals.

        So, you can sit outside and say that BJU or another Christian college equates their administrative rules with Biblical edicts, but you’d be wrong.

        2. Jesus said, “the poor you will always have with you.”  More than simply a response to the request to spend more of the disciple’s money on the poor, and not to minimize helping the poor, I believe this statement was in regard to the fact that you’re never going to be able to eliminate poverty.

        In fact, I would state that you’re never going to eliminate any sin or disease.  You’re not going to protect every child from being kidnapped or murdered.  You’re not going to be able to save every person from every mistake.  It’s impossible.

        You can spend a lot of time, money and effort, and in the end you will have the same conclusion.  Just like the war on drugs.  Just like affirmative action.

        So, there’s a balance that has to be achieved– you have to figure out the amount of effort relative to the outputs.  In this case, without quantities of people harmed/helped by BJU, you and anyone defending this position lack the grounds to discuss whether “too many” have been harmfully impacted or not.

        Many get sucked into cults from all walks of life.  Some make it out and go back.  However, BJU is a college, who doesn’t force people to stay in it, and assumes that people are adults when they leave.  If they came from a cult, or end up in a cult, that has more to do with their personal choices than the University.

  • Alexandra

    Though I didn’t grow up in an abusive environment, it was authoritarian and overly focused on the outside stuff.  Two books I’ve found really helpful – Changes that Heal (Henry Cloud), especially the last section that talks about adulthood and taking authority over your own life; it deals the wanting/needing permission for everything.  Also How People Grow (Henry Cloud and John Townsend) – they have a good biblical framework of the Christian life based on grace and truth.  The other stuff by these two authors is also helpful (like the Boundaries book) for learning to take control of your own life. 

  • RW

    Yep, yep, and yep…. again and again. This stuff gets all up in my crawl b/c people are abused by it. It’s not a choice when you’ve been forced, beat, shamed, manipulated and intimidated into this belief from your beginning. It’s brain washing and it’s very hard to free oneself from such oppressive and fear filled indoctrination that, like you said, makes you helpless (and I would add ‘scared shitless!’) I’ve seen this happen to a family I love and have lost as friends. I feel helpless and angry and heart broken for them, especially their children. I appreciate  you speaking up on these things. I know it’s personal and it’s hard and it’s emotional and it feels awful. But, if it causes one person to stop and think for themselves, to realize this is not love and this is not God, if one person stops the cycle, like you did…here’s to hoping. 

  • Mike

    From the day we could understand language we were taught that we weren’t good enough. We were told we were horrible sinners and that we deserved hell. I feel like that is abuse in and of itself.

  • Ndusty3

    I was born the year after my mother graduated from BJU.  I was steeped in the BJU brand of fundamentalism from my earliest memories.  Never could do anything without permission from mom or dad–ever.  Story:  I was 16, licensed to drive, had my own car.  I saw a little kid in a rather large aluminum boat trying to row his was back home against a stiff south wind and battling good sized waves on the lake.  He was screaming for help and did not have the strength to row against the wind and waves.  I grabbed life jackets and headed out in my boat–a much more stable 14 foot wooden craft with an outboard.  I got to him and threw him a rope and towed him in his boat back home to terrified parents, who thanked me profusely.  My Dad had been on the dock waving (I thought), but when I got back he was gone.  I thought my parents would be happy and proud.  My mom sat in silence as Dad took away my boat keys and in a subdued rage told me that I would not have boat “privileges”  to go anywhere or do anything until he said.  I think I offered him my car keys and he took them too.  I knew what I did was right, but my Dad told me that if I had come when he was “waving” me in, he had every intent of wiping the dock off with me and kicking my butt all the way to shore.  When I asked what I had done that was so wrong, he just said it was none of my business to get involved with that kids trouble in the lake.  My Mom just said that I should have asked their permission first–that was the problem.  I still cannot make a decision without 2nd guessing myself and feeling compelled to get someone’s permission

  • Anonymous

    Elizabeth, 

    I happened to be looking for reviews for Hunger Games and came across your article.

    I am sorry that you had to go through hard times and unnecessary harshness as a child.  Sometimes, parents do or say things because they are taught that way or get into a group that does not understand correctly God’s Word on love and discipline.  “There is none perfect, no not one.”  It is sad that because of a parents actions children are scarred and have a hard time in their adult life  moving forward in an abundant walk with God.

    I am not what you would call a “fundamentalist” but I am a Christian and would encourage you to not forsake the teaching of God’s Word because of bad experiences growing up or attending a college that you did not like.  BTW out of curiosity…why did you attend a college that you so strongly oppose? 

    Military school is a hard training ground and there is forced obedience, rules to keep, and die hard teachers.  However, it is there for a purpose and our military are, for the most part, very competent once they get out of their training.  I’m sure Bob Jones University does have rules you don’t like and seems harsh but I would say that your “learned helplessness” came more from a domineering father or parental authority early on and not an institution.  So, instead of bashing a university maybe go back and try to seek answers from your parents and, in love, let them hear your heart on the matter with Scripture to back up what you are saying.  This is from an objective outside look. 

    No matter where your resentment, bitterness, or anger is coming from, I would encourage you to “Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice:  And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ’s sake hath forgiven you.”  (Eph. 4) 

    Hebrews also says, “Follow peace with all [men], and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord: Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble [you], and thereby many be defiled.”

    I say all this because I know how bitterness can eat away at a person.  My experience is much different than yours but I have had to also learn to love the unlovely, forgive and deal with someone in my life whom I feel has done me wrong.   When we learn true agape love then we do as Matthew 5:44-45 says, “But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;  That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven…”   and practice Matthew 7 regarding judgement (different from discernment). 

    I hope this encourages you even a little because your life will be so much happier if you stop focusing on hurt and past pain.  Your attitude and spirit will also affect your children in the long run.  Live so you don’t have future regrets. 

    I speak from my own experiences.  God bless.