Nuns & the Vatican: must we really take sides against our own?

Someone recently asked me about my thoughts on the Vatican’s rebuke of U.S. nuns. I’ve been following the controversy only marginally. For me, internal striving within the Church is discouraging. Division among Christians just makes me sad.

That said, I do think it’s interesting that the most thriving religious orders for women in the USA are the most orthodox, habit-wearing ones. To me, that makes perfect sense. Honestly, if I were to become a nun right now, I’d be all about the habit. None of this old-lady turtleneck and loafer stuff. None of these flighty little half-veils. No, thanks. I’ll take the full kit and caboodle, thankyouverymuch.

Of course, I’d probably get sick of it within a month and start blinging out my veil with rhinestones–BUT! at first, I’d be ALL in. I mean, if I’m going to give up sex AND take a vow of poverty, there’s no WAY I’m settling for a a half-baked convent. Where’s the glory in that?

I’d wanna be 100% sold-out, marching in front of pro-life parades in full-habit! If I were a young nun, I’d be all blogging and tweeting and rallying and speaking and firing it UP for the Lord! In Latin, yo!

Which is to say, I understand why the orthodox lifestyle of a conservative nun is appealing to young women. These are young women who’ve witnessed and lived the fallout of the sexual revolution. They’ve seen the devastation of divorce, they’ve experienced the harm of a highly-sexualized society. And they want something different. They want something pure and holy and radical.

You know what? I get that. The Church needs the fiery enthusiasm of youthful nuns. Also, speaking out on Big Cultural Issues is all the rage right now. I mean, you can’t hardly be a Christian these days without being hounded about your stance on abortion! gay marriage!

BUT.

Something still unsettles me about the Vatican’s rebuke.

The Church needs the older, gentler nuns, too. These are women who have shown remarkable fortitude during massive cultural upheaval. Their service and dedication to the poor is nothing short of heroic. So what if they haven’t “done enough” fight the culture wars? Not everyone serves God by marching in pro-life parades or giving rousing speeches.

There are quieter, more invisible ways of service that are just as valuable: fighting the death penalty, advocating for the poor and serving in schools and hospitals.

Frankly, I have nothing but respect and admiration for these women.

I’ve heard it said that the Catholic Church has suffered such declining numbers in the past 30 years because of disobedient, watered-down Catholics. By emphasizing purist practice and a return to strict doctrinal adherence, is the Vatican hoping to re-energize the dwindling faithful and attract young people? 

Well, it might work. But it also concerns me. Because if it weren’t for the broadening and opening of Catholic Church (thank you, Pope John Paul II), the doors of the Church would probably have remained closed to someone like me. Even so, it took incredible perseverance (and being granted a special dispensation) for me to hammer my way into the Church. This is because, unlike expansive, easily accessible mega-churches, the Catholic Church is not particularly “seeker and user-friendly” (at least, here in Southern California which is predominantly evangelical Protestant).

So, I remain deeply indebted to the quiet, invisible work of those nuns who have faithfully served their Church and whose kindness toward me has not gone unnoticed. These non-judgmental souls have welcomed me and through the fruits of the Holy Spirit, shown me–with very few words–what loving God looks like.

My hope is that the Church won’t take sides against its own.

What do you think? Was the Vatican’s rebuke warranted? Will it accomplish anything good?

 

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  • http://cuppboard.blogspot.com Elizabeth Erazo

    That authority which allows the Vatican to reprimand and reorganize LCWR is both what attracts me to and repulses me from Catholicism. I mean, in one sense, the Vatican’s doing the best it can to maintain orthodoxy in a large, powerful Catholic group of nuns.

    On the other hand, it does bug me to see a man sent in to clean up. I don’t know if there would have been an alternative, since only men are ordained, but it does get under my slightly-feminist skin.

    And I just want to point out – I know you didn’t mean it this way – but it sounds unfair to paint habit wearing nuns as “all in” and unveiled or unhabited nuns (by implication) as half-in. These women still are “all in”, even if I don’t agree with some of their doctrinal or political actions. And I can admire the love of Christ in them that drives them to the religious life, whether they choose to display that by veils and habits or not.

    • Anonymous

       You’re right, that does come across as unfair. I didn’t mean it that way. Thanks for pointing that out. :)

  • KatR

    It would be one thing if the Vatican was above reproach, but to quote SNL…..REALLY??? Pull the redwood forests out of your own eyes, boys, before you start “rebuking” anyone else. 

    • Anonymous

      I dunno. I think the SNL thing sorta misses the point. I mean, what are we saying? That the pastoral governing authority is not allowed to govern unless it it was 100% above reproach? On a micro level, this doesn’t even work. For example, as a mom, I mess up daily. But it’s still my responsibility to mother my kids, y’know? I have to still keep order and raise the kids, rebuking, encouraging, exhorting, getting them back on track when they stray. I am the governing authority in their lives. I gotta maintain some kind of authority despite messing up on a daily basis myself.

      That said, I DO understand the frustration w. the Vatican. It’s really VERY frustrating and discouraging to see the Vatican all fired up about correcting errant nuns. Was the Vatican equally fired up about uprooting pedophile priests? (Anyone know? Fill me in on this!)

      I dunno. We all have logs in our eyes. I know I can’t see things clearly. And I’m not a HUGE institution.

      May God have mercy on us all….

      • KatR

        No institution is going to be perfect, but when it comes to the sexual abuse crisis, I don’t think the Vatican’s response even meets the “worldly sorrow” standard.

        You know what I realized, though? If you believe (not “you” specifically) that a group has been given their authority directly from God, what they do or don’t do really doesn’t matter, which is why I’m going to excuse myself from this particular discussion before I start spitting and pounding my keyboard. (Look! Personal growth!)

        • Anonymous

           Ah, Kat. God love ya. :) My thought is this: even authority given from God can be abused. So it DOES matter how the authority is used. I know many Catholics might not agree with me on this, but would the Reformation been as powerful if the Church had faithfully addressed corruption and abuse within itself? In some ways, I’m glad to see the Vatican stepping up to correct–isn’t that a kind of self-governance? Isn’t that a sign of personal growth and an awareness that things need to get straightened up at home? :) I know you’re excusing yourself from this convo, I’m just trying to hammer out my ideas about this myself…..

  • TheresaEH

    IMO there must be a very good reason!
     If you look at the new orders of nuns like the Sisters of Life and the Sisters of CFR in NYC,   Mother Angelica’s PCPA they are BURSTING at the seams with young, vibrate, smart young nuns who are embracing their vows with JOY along with their  very conservative habit.  The old order nuns are just that old and dieing out…..maybe that is what is supposed to happen eh.

    • Anonymous

       Yes, I’ve seen this! And I keep getting money requests in the mail from these flourishing orders asking for help in feeding and housing all the new nuns! :)

  • Margaret

    I work at a church with a woman who has been a Sister for sixty years. She plays the organ and wears old lady turtlenecks (because she is an old lady)! She often asks me about my work in ministry, and once told me that people like me were the reason her order was dying out..and that was a good thing. I think that’s the key to the lack of applicants to certain religious orders (and the priesthood): people no longer have to have certain ecclesial letters after their names to serve God and the world through ministry. So the people who want the veils and structure go to the orders that offer that, and people who just want to fight the good fight without taking vows go on about our business.

  • KatR

    By the way, if anyone gets the OWN channel, Lisa Ling is doing a segment on nuns tonight as part of her “Our America” series.

    (Yes, the sexy full on habit wearing kind.)

    (I know I’m going to hell.)

    • Anonymous

       Oh, I would love to see this! Alas, we recently dropped a bunch of our cable channels! Boooo.

  • Katey

    I understand the rift to be a doctrinal one.  I don’t think it has anything to do with their lack of a habit or focus on social justice.   The Vatican is simply steering them back to the teachings of the Church where they have gone astray.
     

    • Anonymous

       I was wondering if this was the case…but the way it’s being presented in the media is that the Vatican is rebuking these nuns for not being more outspoken on cultural issues? Redirecting them back to the teachings of the Church IS important if they truly have strayed….

      • Peony Moss

         You have to be very… discerning any time the mass media report on Catholicism, especially when it involves the Pope or the Curia.  The mass media have only one mental template – Pope and Vatican are bad – and only one way of understanding Church teaching (it’s just “policy.”)  So all the reporting is going to be filtered through that narrative.  Anything that doesn’t fit is going to get ignored.

        • Anonymous

          Ya, if I had based my view of the Catholic Church by listening to mass media reports, I would have NEVER become Catholic! :)

  • Christine

    Thank you, Peony, very well said

  • Anonymous

     Thanks for this, Christine. My guess is that the Vatican is probably doing some long overdue housecleaning, no?

    • Christine

      Yes, and I believe they’re trying to do it fairly.

      • Anonymous

         I did appreciate the Pope weighing in and softening the language toward the nuns. That was a lovely gesture. When correcting and rebuking, gentleness is SO important, yes?

        • Christine

          Yes, it is so very important to speak the truth in love.

  • http://twitter.com/byzcathwife priest’s wife

    the ‘older, gentler’ nuns (or sisters- “nuns’ live in cloister- sister s are in the world) that are being censored by the Church want women ordination and no overseeing of their day-to-day activities. They don’t want the Catholic Eucharist reserved for Catholics. They escort women to get abortions. Some aren’t this ‘radical’ but the confusion of the 60-70-80s have led them to focus on social justice issues (some very good- like anti-death penalty and help for the poor and homeless) to the abandonment of their communal prayer life. The sisters I personally know who would be in the category of being in ‘trouble’ with Rome have more personal money than I do, wear very causal clothing with no identifying ‘markers’ of being celibate, and are actively working towards issues that thew Church is against. But they are kind women. But with a few of them,  I couldn’t tell the difference between them and UU clergy. :(

    • Anonymous

      Well, in THOSE cases where it’s patently OBVIOUS that they’ve strayed (escorting to an abortion? what?!), I totally understand the rebuke. But is this the majority of sisters or just a few?

      • Peony Moss

         Probably a minority, but one that has influence out of proportion to their actual numbers.

        • Christine

          We had several nuns of a certain order (elderly by now) visit our theology classes in the school my kids attended, and one described herself as “post-Christian” and one said that since she is a lesbian she doesn’t believe in Catholic morality (which is TMI and also a misrepresentation, since the Church does not condemn anyone for same-sex attraction per se).  One said that Mary was probably a rape victim, putting her in solidarity with all who’ve been opressed by men the world over. Teachers confirmed these statements.

          So the numbers of these nuns may be small and diminishing but they communicate every year in many area schools. They are vocal and are attached to a large Catholic University in town.

          As I said, they do other charitable work, but seem to spend a lot of time in workshops about journaling, dreams, ritual-making, etc.

  • h.t.

    A special dispensation to join the church?  This surprises me. I know they are not evangelical like many Protestant denominations but I still thought they wanted the church to grow.

    • Anonymous

      Oh, of course they want the church to grow. But I had some special, sticky personal circumstances that required some necessary oversight. :)

  • birdsong

    I see some serious inconsistency from the Vatican. Case in point:  the founder of the Legionaires of Christ, Father Maciel, is found to be a sociopath and a pedophile a couple years after his death. Not only did he sexually abuse children, he abused his own children.  The LC is/was one of the most highly esteemed orders among these wonderful orthodox Catholics you talk about.  People tried for YEARS to bring the truth to the light.  Maciel’s writing were deeply ingrained in all the priests of the order and the order has many cult like tendencies.  They are still ordaining priests today and while there have been visitations from the church authorities I do not see as much of an outcry over this as they have over the nuns.

    My experience has been as long as someone says “I will do whatever the Magisterium tells me too”  they get a free pass.  If by all appearances they are saying what they should be saying regardless of other inconsistencies they get a pat on the back. I see this happening in my parish as well.  I am bewildered as a teacher is welcomed who has a clear track record with serious problems.

    Over time some of these young orthodox nuns will grow and will have a different view.  But I agree with you the church needs both ends of the spectrum.

    It is also troubling to me that the church left hierarchy in authority who basically did what Sandusky did.  Here we have a secular institution that knows what to do and the church fails.  Personally I did not see the vatican taking the same action in the sex abuse issues as they are taking with the nuns.  It makes it seem like the “good old boys club” to me

  • Mel B

    I speak as a cradle Catholic here — went to Catholic grade school, Catholic college — I even went to daily mass in college and lived with an intentional community (lay Franciscan) after college…I’m saddened by the recent mandate.  I read it, and I am concerned that groups like Network were singled out for not being Catholic enough.  Moreover, the tone of the mandate was not as kind and mutual as some make it out to be.  

    There is so much more to the church than the issues of gay marriage, abortion and contraception.  People can be pro-life, opposed to abortion, and still embrace the seamless garment of life by working on issues other than those stated above.In communities I’ve lived in, sisters have started and run hospices, homeless shelters, soup kitchens, counseling centers, day care centers (for kids and elderly), refugee resettlement programs, youth programs, schools, orphanages, hospitals, and so much more.  Among my secular friends, sisters are an impressive and beautiful sign of Christ’s love and compassion.  Sisters are a huge reason I stayed with the church.Sure, there were some extremists in the LCWR .  But,  I’ve never met one of these sisters.  The sisters I’ve met have sacrificed much for their vocations.  It hurts me to see the LCWR (I believe 80% of US women religious) as entitled, selfish, radical feminists, when they have shared so much of themselves with us in the church.   I wish we could express a more grateful attitude toward these women, rather than “you’re not as holy as the real sisters.”

    • Mel B

      I meant to say, I’m sad to see the LCWR portrayed as entitled, selfish, radical feminists, when they have shared so much of themselves with us through their witness and their work in the church.

  • Lynn B

    And just from the perspective of  a life-long Catholic, I have to say that for years, it was very distressing hearing stories of these “radical” nuns whose behavior was anything but Catholic – nearly anti-Catholic – but never hearing any kind of official correction of their actions. What organization allows its members to consistently flaunt their disobedience, but never utters a word of clarification? It is very confusing. The only thing we could imagine was that correction would bring up exactly the feelings expressed here – but no matter, it has to be done. I like your comparison to parenting, EE. It helps to think of it from a sibling’s point of view too. If your parent never corrected a sister who broke all the rules, what would you think? It would weaken the whole family. And all mothers need to work on consistency, I agree :) Hopefully it’s a start…